Lots of containers with Bard Outfit pieces

[DjengoPengo]

Since installing the creation i keep running into containers filled with expensive bard outfit pieces,
i keep finding them all over, most of the time there's 2 pairs of boots, 2 outfits and nothing else in the chests.
For items this expensive it seems a bit unbalanced.
Is there anyway for me to fix this?

 

[VersusXV]

Hello welcome to the forums! Could you provide some example locations, or is it literally everywhere?

Best guess initially is there might be SPID in use, particularly if any automated patching is set up. Link to that for reference:

Spell Perk Item Distributor (SPID)

SKSE plugin that can be used to add spells/perks/items/shouts/packages/outfits/keywords/factions to every NPC in the game, using config files.

www.nexusmods.com

Attaching load order/plugins txt would also be helpful, if on PC.

 

[DjengoPengo]

I will play some more tonight and post where i find it.
Just now i found it in a dresser in Fellglow keep. ( the attached screenshot) the first time i found this exact combination of items was in the interior of the Dainty Sload, not sure what kind of container it was.

I am not sure what you mean with the SPID, should i use that to fix it?

 

[VersusXV]

I am not sure what you mean with the SPID, should i use that to fix it?

It shouldn't be necessary, it's just one possible cause as I believe it's capable of having specific items bulk added at runtime automatically to containers or leveled lists. If it were to be in use, it's the first thing I'd check

 

[KillJoy]

huh I rarely find those in chests I woudl be curious which mod is doing that too

 

[DjengoPengo]

I do use 1 mod related to loot, but as far as i know it only affects locked containers.
Mod: "Lock Related Loot"
Link

 

[DjengoPengo]

All right, i finished Fellglow keep, i tracked the one interior cell, so without the dungeon interior.
I found the following:

Bard Boots: 6 pair.
Bard Outfit: 6.
Bard Backpack: 3.
Bard Hat: 3.

Across 4 dressers, 1 wardrobe and 1 cupboard.



This had to be the worst one:

 

[KillJoy]

holy cow in 960 hours of playtesting I never saw anything like that. I have to think one of your mods is altering loot

 

[DjengoPengo]

I do use 1 mod related to loot, but as far as i know it only affects locked containers.
Mod: "Lock Related Loot"
Link

Of my whole modlist, i think this is the only one that might alter loottables. 99% of my mods is textures.

 

[twolargepepperoni]

Of my whole modlist, i think this is the only one that might alter loottables. 99% of my mods is textures.

Hey there - I'd still appreciate you posting your plugins.txt file if you can please. I will look into this when I am able.

 

[DjengoPengo]

Here you go.

 

[twolargepepperoni]

All right, i finished Fellglow keep, i tracked the one interior cell, so without the dungeon interior.
I found the following:

Bard Boots: 6 pair.
Bard Outfit: 6.
Bard Backpack: 3.
Bard Hat: 3.

Across 4 dressers, 1 wardrobe and 1 cupboard.



This had to be the worst one:
View attachment 27

Apologies for taking so long to get back to you.

I can confirm that this definitely seems to be a mod conflict - I scoured every container in that location and could not reproduce this, as I only found one backpack in the whole area. The mod you suggested sounds like it only affects containers with a lock - does it add locks to things like cupboards? I'll take a look at your plugins list, thanks for sending that over!

 

[DjengoPengo]

Hmm, it does not add locks to other containers, i disabled the mod but still found lots of bard related gear in formerly unexplored interior cells.
I have no idea which other mod might affect this.

 

[twolargepepperoni]

To clarify - finding some outfits are to be expected, in that we make them eligible to show up as loot in the same manner as vanilla outfits. But finding that many in one single location is definitely not supposed to happen.

I'll need to look into this further and get back to you - thanks for the head's up. If you find any other specific locations that seem particularly affected to that same degree (or more), please let me know.

Edit - no need for a save file, I can reproduce this with some of these mods.

 

[DjengoPengo]

I have encountered more containers with loads of bard only stuff today, but don't remember in what dungeon this was. Will keep notes from now on.

 

[twolargepepperoni]

Hey there - back with some news here.

Been puzzling over this yesterday, and it turns out that this is actually correct vanilla behaviour - and not a conflict. The dressers in Skyrim use the same levelled list injection as regular store vendors, which explains why some items appear duplicated (I also tested on vanilla Skyrim to compare, with Bard not installed, and saw the same duplication of items available in dressers).

Our Bard outfits are set to spawn at the same rates as the CC backpacks, and this has been double-checked yesterday as well - so it doesn't appear to be a bug. I know that doesn't really answer your original question, but I wanted to make sure I was sharing the correct information and clear up any confusion relating to potential conflicts.

 

[DjengoPengo]

I have indeed seen the same thing with CC backpacks, sometimes i get 1 of every backpack variant from 1 dresser!

 

[KillJoy]

so weird in a thousand hours of play since backpacks came into game I have never seen more than 1 backpack in a dresser